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I REALLY hope the new gemma 5 family sticks to the "chat model first" philsophy and doesn't fall into the Qwen trap

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A Reddit user expresses hope that the new Gemma 5 family of models will maintain a "chat model first" philosophy, avoiding the "Qwen trap" of becoming overly code-focused. They praise Gemma 4 31b for its less robotic and more creative output, even recalling obscure lore. The user fears that benchmark pressure might lead developers to prioritize performance metrics over the model's unique qualities, potentially removing its "soul."

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09/07, 17:30 UTC+0
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It just seems every local 30b class model is just trying so hard to be the next Qwen that they all just kinda blend into a mass of code focused models. I really like how gemma 4 31b turned out with it feeling a lot less robotic and more creative than other models even knowing obscure lore from random media.

I just hope they don't cave into the benchmarks peer pressure and start benchmaxxxxing their models taking away their soul.

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