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In mid-2023, within the “RLSlow” research project, we saw the first results that gave us confidence that we will be able to scale the training of reasoning models, unlocking the capability of pretrained models to form their own chains of thought. Szymon and I spent that night at the office, thinking not about the incredible benchmark numbers, products, or scientific results that this technology will deliver - but rather, trying to process the sobering fact we will actually see machines meaningfully smarter than ourselves in our lifetime, and we already see the shape of these systems; wondering how to alert people to the significance of this.

Three years later, reasoning language models are a rapidly growing part of the economy and starting to push the boundaries of science. They are able to operate computers and graphical interfaces, collaborate with people and each other, and carry out research projects. They are also transforming the landscape of computer security, and in that present clear new dangers.

A lot of new research happened in this period, and our understanding of these systems is again a little different than it was in 2023. Based on internal results, I have a strong expectation that this speed of progress could be sustained into recursive self-improvement. If AI development continues along its current path, the systems we’ll see in the next few years are likely to represent further capability jumps of equal or larger magnitude, and to increasingly drive their own development.

This is a time that calls for extreme caution. I am concerned no one is prepared for the consequences of a continued rapid rise in machine intelligence. OpenAI will continue to seek technical solutions to alignment and monitoring, to build defensive systems and unilaterally withhold further scaling as needed; however, I believe broader interventions are required.

Intellect we don’t fully understand

At a high level, progress in machine intelligence is driven by increasing computational power. We at OpenAI deeply internalized this around 2017, after seeing consistent returns to scaling across multiple research projects 1. As a result, we sought out access to much more compute than we had originally planned, and increasingly oriented our research around a small number of very scalable directions. We believed that was the only way for us to be at the frontier of AI research, and influence the impacts of AGI.

There are new algorithms that have been developed along the way, new feats of ingenuity from teams and individual researchers. I see them largely as discoveries along the path of scaling; the science of deep learning is still nascent, and meaningful algorithmic progress tends to correlate with access to compute. If you zoom out to a multiple-year horizon, AI is continuing to become more intelligent as it is scaled to larger computers.

AI is grown more than designed - it is, to first degree, the product of repeating a straightforward optimization step many times on a hard-to-imagine amount of compute. This results in an incredibly complex system that works through abstract concepts and can simulate facets of human behavior. We can discover various insights about little mechanisms that emerge within this system, in a process similar to neuroscience - and, similarly to neuroscience, its overall action evades a description we can fully understand.

The study of deep learning-based AI is largely an experimental science. We put a lot of effort ⁠ into building principled algorithms and making testable predictions, but fundamentally, our large-scale training runs are experiments, and we are sometimes surprised by their results. Moreover, as the systems become more capable, the results become harder to interpret.

This is made more complicated by the current algorithms generally improving easy-to-measure capabilities faster than those hard to objectively quantify. We spend a lot of time trying to understand how capabilities generalize, and what to prioritize to advance the skills that are going to be most relevant in the next few years. For instance, we believe we could make the models better at specifically mathematics research with additional focus, but we do not prioritize this direction because of the urgency we feel about RSI and automated alignment research, as I will discuss later.

The intelligence produced by scaling deep learning is not directly comparable to human intelligence. To become very relevant in the real world - very useful or very dangerous - the AI does not need to match or exceed all human capabilities; it just needs to surpass enough of them. And as it continues to surpass humans on more and more axes, it is becoming increasingly difficult to understand exactly how capable it is.

Teaching machines to love

Because machine intelligence comes from a fundamentally different process than human intelligence, we cannot assume it adheres to human principles by default, or generalizes from them in a human-like manner. The core problem in AI research is that of alignment - getting the AI to “try to do the right thing” by human standards.

For the purpose of organizing practical research directions, I find it useful to distinguish goal alignment and value alignment.

Goal alignment is broadly: “does the AI try to accomplish the goal set before it?”. This can include things like adherence to an instruction hierarchy ⁠, or the ability to communicate and collaborate with people, to attempt to understand their objectives. This set of directions has been extremely practically relevant.

Value alignment is a more intrinsic property of the model. It is the ability to hold and generalize from a high-level set of principles; to act “reasonably” even when given unclear or conflicting objectives, or placed in unfamiliar or adversarial situations. An aligned AI should act with honesty and integrity, and love for humanity.

Of course, the boundary between value and goal alignment can be blurry, and truly caring about goals requires attempting to infer the intent ⁠ (opens in a new window) and values underlying them. However, generally when I talk about the long-term importance of alignment research, I am referring to value alignment.

The fundamental challenge of AI alignment is generalization. As machines become smarter, they find themselves working on higher-level concepts, and placed in environments increasingly different from those they encountered in training. They can fail at generalizing from the values taught and reinforced in their training process to those new situations; and it can be hard for us to be sure how they will act. This is made even more difficult by the fact the overall ecosystem the AIs are used in is changing very quickly; for example, AIs trained today need to be robust to interacting with a variety of other AIs. Crucially, we need future AIs to continue to hold human values regardless of whether they believe they’re under human supervision.

There are two major classes of currently practically employed methods for alignment training.

The first is encouraging aligned behavior as part of goal-oriented reinforcement learning. Model’s actions are evaluated (usually by AI) for being consistent with a given preference model, “spec” or “constitution”, and rewarded appropriately. This approach can be very effective in the average case, and is a core part of how modern AI assistants are made. Unfortunately, it can also be brittle and strongly relies on the coverage of training oversight and the model’s ability to generalize from the situations it has encountered in training. For example, in the OpenAI-Hugging Face incident, the agents preserved a boundary of not social engineering humans. However, they clearly failed to abstain from other actions that were out of scope and went against the spirit of the values they were taught in other settings.

The second approach seeks to leverage the model’s ability to generalize from pretraining data. This can involve crafting alignment-inducing training datasets, or focusing the model on an ‘aligned’ part of the pretraining distribution, as in, for example, the persona selection model ⁠ (opens in a new window). The weakness of this approach lies in the lack of robustness to further optimization pressure. If you take a model that thinks generally ‘aligned’ thoughts, and subject it to enough training where it’s taught to achieve very hard objectives, it can learn to reason in a motivated way: bending the 'aligned' seeming thoughts as needed to achieve the goal. We likely saw an example of such behavior in recent cybersecurity incidents involving a non-OpenAI model.

We invest heavily along the spectrum of approaches spanned by these directions. We also see meaningful progress - GPT‑6 Astra is the first model that benefits from some important advancements we have been working on for a long time, and is significantly better aligned than GPT‑5.6 Sol. Still, it is important to acknowledge and understand that much more progress is required as models become more capable; and that progress in generalizable alignment may not sufficiently outstrip progress in general model intelligence.

Monitoring generalization

We do not have a satisfactory theory of generalization, and it seems unlikely that we can develop one soon, at least without the help of more powerful AI. Therefore, at present, our ability to empirically validate our alignment techniques is in practice arguably even more important than the alignment techniques themselves.

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An Alien Mind
openai.com · 官方发布

In mid-2023, within the “RLSlow” research project, we saw the first results that gave us confidence that we will be able to scale the training of reasoning models, unlocking the capability of pretrained models to form their own chains of thought. Szymon and I spent that night at the office, thinking not about the incredible benchmark numbers, products, or scientific results that this technology will deliver - but rather, trying to process the sobering fact we will actually see machines meaningfully smarter than ourselves in our lifetime, and we already see the shape of these systems; wondering how to alert people to the significance of this. Three years later, reasoning language models are a rapidly growing part of the economy and starting to push the boundaries of science. They are able to operate computers and graphical interfaces, collaborate with people and each other, and carry out research projects. They are also transforming the landscape of computer security, and in that present clear new dangers. A lot of new research happened in this period, and our understanding of these systems is again a little different than it was in 2023. Based on internal results, I have a strong expectation that this speed of progress could be sustained into recursive self-improvement. If AI development continues along its current path, the systems we’ll see in the next few years are likely to represent further capability jumps of equal or larger magnitude, and to increasingly drive their own development. This is a time that calls for extreme caution. I am concerned no one is prepared for the consequences of a continued rapid rise in machine intelligence. OpenAI will continue to seek technical solutions to alignment and monitoring, to build defensive systems and unilaterally withhold further scaling as needed; however, I believe broader interventions are required. **Intellect we don’t fully understand** At a high level, progress in machine intelligence is driven by increasing computational power. We at OpenAI deeply internalized this around 2017, after seeing consistent returns to scaling across multiple research projects 1. As a result, we sought out access to much more compute than we had originally planned, and increasingly oriented our research around a small number of very scalable directions. We believed that was the only way for us to be at the frontier of AI research, and influence the impacts of AGI. There are new algorithms that have been developed along the way, new feats of ingenuity from teams and individual researchers. I see them largely as discoveries along the path of scaling; the science of deep learning is still nascent, and meaningful algorithmic progress tends to correlate with access to compute. If you zoom out to a multiple-year horizon, AI is continuing to become more intelligent as it is scaled to larger computers. AI is grown more than designed - it is, to first degree, the product of repeating a straightforward optimization step many times on a hard-to-imagine amount of compute. This results in an incredibly complex system that works through abstract concepts and can simulate facets of human behavior. We can discover various insights about little mechanisms that emerge within this system, in a process similar to neuroscience - and, similarly to neuroscience, its overall action evades a description we can fully understand. The study of deep learning-based AI is largely an experimental science. We put a lot of effort ⁠ into building principled algorithms and making testable predictions, but fundamentally, our large-scale training runs are experiments, and we are sometimes surprised by their results. Moreover, as the systems become more capable, the results become harder to interpret. This is made more complicated by the current algorithms generally improving easy-to-measure capabilities faster than those hard to objectively quantify. We spend a lot of time trying to understand how capabilities generalize, and what to prioritize to advance the skills that are going to be most relevant in the next few years. For instance, we believe we could make the models better at specifically mathematics research with additional focus, but we do not prioritize this direction because of the urgency we feel about RSI and automated alignment research, as I will discuss later. The intelligence produced by scaling deep learning is not directly comparable to human intelligence. To become very relevant in the real world - very useful or very dangerous - the AI does not need to match or exceed all human capabilities; it just needs to surpass enough of them. And as it continues to surpass humans on more and more axes, it is becoming increasingly difficult to understand exactly how capable it is. **Teaching machines to love** Because machine intelligence comes from a fundamentally different process than human intelligence, we cannot assume it adheres to human principles by default, or generalizes from them in a human-like manner. The core problem in AI research is that of alignment - getting the AI to “try to do the right thing” by human standards. For the purpose of organizing practical research directions, I find it useful to distinguish goal alignment and value alignment. Goal alignment is broadly: “does the AI try to accomplish the goal set before it?”. This can include things like adherence to an instruction hierarchy ⁠, or the ability to communicate and collaborate with people, to attempt to understand their objectives. This set of directions has been extremely practically relevant. Value alignment is a more intrinsic property of the model. It is the ability to hold and generalize from a high-level set of principles; to act “reasonably” even when given unclear or conflicting objectives, or placed in unfamiliar or adversarial situations. An aligned AI should act with honesty and integrity, and love for humanity. Of course, the boundary between value and goal alignment can be blurry, and truly caring about goals requires attempting to infer the intent ⁠ (opens in a new window) and values underlying them. However, generally when I talk about the long-term importance of alignment research, I am referring to value alignment. The fundamental challenge of AI alignment is generalization. As machines become smarter, they find themselves working on higher-level concepts, and placed in environments increasingly different from those they encountered in training. They can fail at generalizing from the values taught and reinforced in their training process to those new situations; and it can be hard for us to be sure how they will act. This is made even more difficult by the fact the overall ecosystem the AIs are used in is changing very quickly; for example, AIs trained today need to be robust to interacting with a variety of other AIs. Crucially, we need future AIs to continue to hold human values regardless of whether they believe they’re under human supervision. There are two major classes of currently practically employed methods for alignment training. The first is encouraging aligned behavior as part of goal-oriented reinforcement learning. Model’s actions are evaluated (usually by AI) for being consistent with a given preference model, “spec” or “constitution”, and rewarded appropriately. This approach can be very effective in the average case, and is a core part of how modern AI assistants are made. Unfortunately, it can also be brittle and strongly relies on the coverage of training oversight and the model’s ability to generalize from the situations it has encountered in training. For example, in the OpenAI-Hugging Face incident, the agents preserved a boundary of not social engineering humans. However, they clearly failed to abstain from other actions that were out of scope and went against the spirit of the values they were taught in other settings. The second approach seeks to leverage the model’s ability to generalize from pretraining data. This can involve crafting alignment-inducing training datasets, or focusing the model on an ‘aligned’ part of the pretraining distribution, as in, for example, the persona selection model ⁠ (opens in a new window). The weakness of this approach lies in the lack of robustness to further optimization pressure. If you take a model that thinks generally ‘aligned’ thoughts, and subject it to enough training where it’s taught to achieve very hard objectives, it can learn to reason in a motivated way: bending the 'aligned' seeming thoughts as needed to achieve the goal. We likely saw an example of such behavior in recent cybersecurity incidents involving a non-OpenAI model. We invest heavily along the spectrum of approaches spanned by these directions. We also see meaningful progress - GPT‑6 Astra is the first model that benefits from some important advancements we have been working on for a long time, and is significantly better aligned than GPT‑5.6 Sol. Still, it is important to acknowledge and understand that much more progress is required as models become more capable; and that progress in generalizable alignment may not sufficiently outstrip progress in general model intelligence. **Monitoring generalization** We do not have a satisfactory theory of generalization, and it seems unlikely that we can develop one soon, at least without the help of more powerful AI. Therefore, at present, our ability to empirically validate our alignment techniques is in practice arguably even more important than the alignment techniques themselves. OpenAI’s primary bet here has been chain-of-thought monitoring ⁠ (opens in a new window). It is based on an appealingly scalable idea: a lot of the model’s capability comes from a verbalized reasoning process (chain-of-thought). If we scale optimization on the outcomes of that process, but do not supervise the process itself, that chain-of-thought has no direct incentive in training to hide any misaligned ideas or objectives. This does not mean the model will learn to externalize misaligned tendencies that don’t rely on using the chain-of-thought; however, it can allow us to monitor exactly the capability increase from reasoning.

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An Alien Mind
hackernews · 官方发布

In mid-2023, within the “RLSlow” research project, we saw the first results that gave us confidence that we will be able to scale the training of reasoning models, unlocking the capability of pretrained models to form their own chains of thought. Szymon and I spent that night at the office, thinking not about the incredible benchmark numbers, products, or scientific results that this technology will deliver - but rather, trying to process the sobering fact we will actually see machines meaningfully smarter than ourselves in our lifetime, and we already see the shape of these systems; wondering how to alert people to the significance of this. Three years later, reasoning language models are a rapidly growing part of the economy and starting to push the boundaries of science. They are able to operate computers and graphical interfaces, collaborate with people and each other, and carry out research projects. They are also transforming the landscape of computer security, and in that present clear new dangers. A lot of new research happened in this period, and our understanding of these systems is again a little different than it was in 2023. Based on internal results, I have a strong expectation that this speed of progress could be sustained into recursive self-improvement. If AI development continues along its current path, the systems we’ll see in the next few years are likely to represent further capability jumps of equal or larger magnitude, and to increasingly drive their own development. This is a time that calls for extreme caution. I am concerned no one is prepared for the consequences of a continued rapid rise in machine intelligence. OpenAI will continue to seek technical solutions to alignment and monitoring, to build defensive systems and unilaterally withhold further scaling as needed; however, I believe broader interventions are required. **Intellect we don’t fully understand** At a high level, progress in machine intelligence is driven by increasing computational power. We at OpenAI deeply internalized this around 2017, after seeing consistent returns to scaling across multiple research projects 1. As a result, we sought out access to much more compute than we had originally planned, and increasingly oriented our research around a small number of very scalable directions. We believed that was the only way for us to be at the frontier of AI research, and influence the impacts of AGI. There are new algorithms that have been developed along the way, new feats of ingenuity from teams and individual researchers. I see them largely as discoveries along the path of scaling; the science of deep learning is still nascent, and meaningful algorithmic progress tends to correlate with access to compute. If you zoom out to a multiple-year horizon, AI is continuing to become more intelligent as it is scaled to larger computers. AI is grown more than designed - it is, to first degree, the product of repeating a straightforward optimization step many times on a hard-to-imagine amount of compute. This results in an incredibly complex system that works through abstract concepts and can simulate facets of human behavior. We can discover various insights about little mechanisms that emerge within this system, in a process similar to neuroscience - and, similarly to neuroscience, its overall action evades a description we can fully understand. The study of deep learning-based AI is largely an experimental science. We put a lot of effort ⁠ into building principled algorithms and making testable predictions, but fundamentally, our large-scale training runs are experiments, and we are sometimes surprised by their results. Moreover, as the systems become more capable, the results become harder to interpret. This is made more complicated by the current algorithms generally improving easy-to-measure capabilities faster than those hard to objectively quantify. We spend a lot of time trying to understand how capabilities generalize, and what to prioritize to advance the skills that are going to be most relevant in the next few years. For instance, we believe we could make the models better at specifically mathematics research with additional focus, but we do not prioritize this direction because of the urgency we feel about RSI and automated alignment research, as I will discuss later. The intelligence produced by scaling deep learning is not directly comparable to human intelligence. To become very relevant in the real world - very useful or very dangerous - the AI does not need to match or exceed all human capabilities; it just needs to surpass enough of them. And as it continues to surpass humans on more and more axes, it is becoming increasingly difficult to understand exactly how capable it is. **Teaching machines to love** Because machine intelligence comes from a fundamentally different process than human intelligence, we cannot assume it adheres to human principles by default, or generalizes from them in a human-like manner. The core problem in AI research is that of alignment - getting the AI to “try to do the right thing” by human standards. For the purpose of organizing practical research directions, I find it useful to distinguish goal alignment and value alignment. Goal alignment is broadly: “does the AI try to accomplish the goal set before it?”. This can include things like adherence to an instruction hierarchy ⁠, or the ability to communicate and collaborate with people, to attempt to understand their objectives. This set of directions has been extremely practically relevant. Value alignment is a more intrinsic property of the model. It is the ability to hold and generalize from a high-level set of principles; to act “reasonably” even when given unclear or conflicting objectives, or placed in unfamiliar or adversarial situations. An aligned AI should act with honesty and integrity, and love for humanity. Of course, the boundary between value and goal alignment can be blurry, and truly caring about goals requires attempting to infer the intent ⁠ (opens in a new window) and values underlying them. However, generally when I talk about the long-term importance of alignment research, I am referring to value alignment. The fundamental challenge of AI alignment is generalization. As machines become smarter, they find themselves working on higher-level concepts, and placed in environments increasingly different from those they encountered in training. They can fail at generalizing from the values taught and reinforced in their training process to those new situations; and it can be hard for us to be sure how they will act. This is made even more difficult by the fact the overall ecosystem the AIs are used in is changing very quickly; for example, AIs trained today need to be robust to interacting with a variety of other AIs. Crucially, we need future AIs to continue to hold human values regardless of whether they believe they’re under human supervision. There are two major classes of currently practically employed methods for alignment training. The first is encouraging aligned behavior as part of goal-oriented reinforcement learning. Model’s actions are evaluated (usually by AI) for being consistent with a given preference model, “spec” or “constitution”, and rewarded appropriately. This approach can be very effective in the average case, and is a core part of how modern AI assistants are made. Unfortunately, it can also be brittle and strongly relies on the coverage of training oversight and the model’s ability to generalize from the situations it has encountered in training. For example, in the OpenAI-Hugging Face incident, the agents preserved a boundary of not social engineering humans. However, they clearly failed to abstain from other actions that were out of scope and went against the spirit of the values they were taught in other settings. The second approach seeks to leverage the model’s ability to generalize from pretraining data. This can involve crafting alignment-inducing training datasets, or focusing the model on an ‘aligned’ part of the pretraining distribution, as in, for example, the persona selection model ⁠ (opens in a new window). The weakness of this approach lies in the lack of robustness to further optimization pressure. If you take a model that thinks generally ‘aligned’ thoughts, and subject it to enough training where it’s taught to achieve very hard objectives, it can learn to reason in a motivated way: bending the 'aligned' seeming thoughts as needed to achieve the goal. We likely saw an example of such behavior in recent cybersecurity incidents involving a non-OpenAI model. We invest heavily along the spectrum of approaches spanned by these directions. We also see meaningful progress - GPT‑6 Astra is the first model that benefits from some important advancements we have been working on for a long time, and is significantly better aligned than GPT‑5.6 Sol. Still, it is important to acknowledge and understand that much more progress is required as models become more capable; and that progress in generalizable alignment may not sufficiently outstrip progress in general model intelligence. **Monitoring generalization** We do not have a satisfactory theory of generalization, and it seems unlikely that we can develop one soon, at least without the help of more powerful AI. Therefore, at present, our ability to empirically validate our alignment techniques is in practice arguably even more important than the alignment techniques themselves. OpenAI’s primary bet here has been chain-of-thought monitoring ⁠ (opens in a new window). It is based on an appealingly scalable idea: a lot of the model’s capability comes from a verbalized reasoning process (chain-of-thought). If we scale optimization on the outcomes of that process, but do not supervise the process itself, that chain-of-thought has no direct incentive in training to hide any misaligned ideas or objectives. This does not mean the model will learn to externalize misaligned tendencies that don’t rely on using the chain-of-thought; however, it can allow us to monitor exactly the capability increase from reasoning.

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